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Letters from a Real Asian Tiger Dad – Letter #2

A son can bear with equanimity the loss of his father, but the loss of his inheritance may drive him to despair.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Tiger Dad

I read today the Tiger mom’s husband was backing his wife.  Of course he would.  As the article suggests, these two sure know how to utilize the media to promote their book.  As I read more and more, I think that we are missing the point.  These parents are just guiding their children with a firm hand.  To many of us out there who never had a parent who pushed hard, this may seem like a foreign concept.  It is a fine art.  A balancing act of cultivating, nurturing, and motivating without a rebellion.

When I was young, we were all taught to treat my grandfather with respect.   When you visited my grandfather you had to listen to him speak his philosophies even if you thought they were outdated.  This was a very successful man and he didn’t get to where he was without strong conviction.  He had no education and he somehow raised 6 boys and my mother from the streets of Chinatown to the posh estates of Atherton, CA. All of his sons except his first worked for him in his meat company.  Even his nephews worked for him.  It was a family business.  If you were a male, you were expected to work in my grandfather’s meat packing company.  I remember spending one summer when I was 12 (a year older than my son) that as an 80 pound kid while my friends were on vacation, I pushed around slabs of beef twice my size in a 20 degree refrigerated meet locker slipping and sliding on the discarded fat on the the floor.  My parents knew I’d hate it, but they wanted me to understand what it meant to work hard and to understand what made my grandfather successful.  This was before the movie Rocky ever came out, so there was no Asian glory in pushing around bloody carcasses of beef.  I didn’t earn minimum wage of $3/hr. My grandfather would yell my name at lunch over the speaker to come in and eat a lunch that he made.  That was my pay.  Family worked for my grandfather gratis.  It was a privilege, not a job.   Hard work, family values, and a tight fist with money is what I learned and all I needed to know about my grandfather’s money.  This is something shared amongst many Asian cultures around the world.  It is also shared by the cultures of many of my Caucasian friends who are closer to their heritage and have tight family bonds.

As the first son of the first daughter in a traditional Chinese family, not as much was expected of me, but these letters which I am re-publishing are because of this incident.  When I told my grandfather that I was going to camp the next summer instead of working for him in his freezer, he asked his friend, a successful Asian businessman, for copies of letters he had just written for his own son who had just graduated from Harvard.   My grandfather gave these copies of the letters to my dad in hope that they would inspire me to join the family business.  I never worked at the meat company again, but mostly because I understood that I wasn’t in the direct male lineage of the family.  I spent the next summer helping out for $3/hr at my mother’s gift shop selling jelly beans and gift cards.

My grandfather and his  good friend would always go for long walks or sit down over tea for hours discussing business and the issues of raising young children in the Western world.  They were raising Asian children in a 98% white upper class neighborhood where kids drove Porsches to school and tied tennis sweaters around their necks despite the 75 degree weather.  Another planet to 2 Asian men in their 60s who fought for everything they had.  Both men had multiple sons and a daughter.  The following is a second letter in a series of the three letters written by my grandfather’s friend to his eldest son.  My guess is that these letters were inspired by those long conversations with my grandfather:

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Dear XXXX:

The following statement tells you my concept and philosophy in the disposition of property and money.

Before I came to the United States I had established five trustees, four for each of the children and one for us.  The value of of each child’s trustee is about $250,000.00 and ours is about $1,000,000.00.  The children’s trustees get their income from the investment, such like dividend and interest.  The income of ours will be evenly distributed to you children when it is matured  All the trustees are under the fidelity and management of  XXXXX Bank and will be matured in February 1984.  When mature, the value of each child’s trustee will be about $350,000.00 to $500,000.00.

The above-mentioned property and money which is to be given to the children has been decided, but the remaining of our other property and money has not been decided.  It depends on the followings:

1) Your behavior and attitude with which you treat your parents and your contribution to the family.

2) Your concept and philosophy in utilizing money.  If you expect, after receiving the property and money from us, to enjoy an easy life for yourself, then the chance of receiving the inherited property and money from us is zero.  You may have your enjoyment with the money you earn from your work.

3) If you expect to improve yourself, your skill and knowledge, and to develop some kind of business, then the chance is big.  But it still depends on some other factors.

4) If you expect to utilize our property and money to commit certain contribution to the society and to the country, then the chance will even be bigger.

Anyhow, the distribution of our property and money to you is under certain conditions: 1) to improve yourself, 2) to contribute to the family, and 3) to contribute to society and to the country. Otherwise, you will be very disappointed and it is better not to expect it.

For the time being, I still have not made any will, until I am able to have a full observation of you.

If you want to work the family business, in order to maintain our relationship better than today, you should treat our business as an ordinary outside working institute, i.e. you are only allowed to spend every single penny which is connected with the business.  If you make any expenditure not connected with the business, or you want to get advantage from the company, it will hurt our relationship and I strongly suggest you not do it, even sometimes if sometimes it can get some advantage from income tax.  If you want to get some merchandise and/or facility from the company, you should pay a fair market price.  You may make some special arrangement with me with regards to expenditures which are connected to your personal purpose.  But I still hope this should not happen very often.

In family, I hope you will pay all minor expenses by yourself, such as laundry, clothes, and cosmetic, etc., etc..

PRIVACY.  In order to maintain our happy life, all of us should from the bottom of our hearts fully respect each other’s privacy.  We should pay attention to the following points.  1) We should all treat our friends as mutual friends, and not to interfere with their personal relationships. 2) Ordinary daily life, such as meal time and others, should be complied with family customs, without creating extra work or burden to the family. 3) In order not to let the family worry, we should let the family know our rough schedule, especially our whereabouts when we leave home.

This is my second letter to you, discussing the concept and philosophy in property and money.  This letter will also be distributed to your brothers.  I welcome your  comments, and theirs, on my letters No. 1 and on this letter No. 2 .

Love from,

Your father

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Granted these letters are over 30 years old, but they reflect the culture by which many in my generation were subjected to.  The firm but loving hand.  The family unit is a microcosm of what children are exposed to compared to what they see day to day.  And the gap between the 2 cultures and philosophies grows every day.  It would be only natural for us to be shocked by such dialogue to a young adult today.   Do not get lost in the financial figures (remember those numbers are circa 1978), but consider Paris Hilton’s father sending this letter to his daughter.  Notice how my grandfather’s friend doesn’t even address the fact that his daughter would get a chance to see the letter.  She is treated equally financially, but what is expected of her is not mentioned.  Perhaps that is why Amy Chua became the Tiger Mom.   She had to guess the expectations of achievement to uphold the family values.

I can divulge that while the two younger sons and daughter did not go on to work for their father long term, they are all relatively successful in their own ways.  Unfortunately their parents split up as the mother and father eventually disagreed with the father’s evaluation and expectations of their children.

(To be continued – Letter #3)

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Note: These letters I am publishing are typed with the misspellings and grammatical errors as they were written.  The first letter written in my previous posting was written on April 14, 1978.  The letter in this blog posting was written a week later on April 20, 1978.

The Letter from an Asian Tiger Dad – Letter #1

 “Parents are not interested in justice, they’re interested in peace and quiet.”
Bill Cosby

The first big controversial pop culture topic of  2011 was penned by Amy Chua, the Yale Professor who wrote the column in the Wall Street Journal titled “Why Chinese Mothers are Superior”.  It was all done to promote her new book, “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother”.  The key word is promote.  As a marketer, you saw right through it when you read the article and you see that she refers to both men and women parents and then notes that this isn’t just about Chinese mothers.  I was miffed at  two points:…who says this is about Asian women only and why was she giving all the credit to Asian moms?  What about the dads?  Every parent out there was either saying what about me or what a B*&^% that lady is.

The whole point was to raise discussion on parenting and on that she was successful.  In fact, as a Chinese person I was indifferent to the stereotype.  I nodded my head in agreement about some parts of the article and in other parts shook my head and said that this was just a crazy mother who happens to be Chinese.  I also felt it was a generational thing.  My old grandmothers never were like that.  They were strong but passive women.  In a traditional Asian family of my  grandparent’s generation, the mom was the cleaning maid and cook as it appeared to me.  The father was the driver. My two Chinese grandmothers raised 15 children between the two of them without husbands around who were absent trying to make ends meet during the Depression era.  Maybe that is where Amy Chua gets her intensity.  Trying to be like her own mother but in today’s modern society.

One of the controversial moments in the article was what people who read the article refer to as “the piano lesson”.  It was an unbelievable example of tough parenting.  Then I heard my wife and son arguing the other night over his lack of practice on the piano.  It got loud and I stayed out.  And yes there were tears.  For those who don’t know me….my wife is not Asian.  She’s apparently the Italian Tiger Mom.  Myth #1 broken.

I should caveat and say that my own mother had me in Chinese school, basketball, soccer, baseball, dance, karate and swimming.  Not to mention that I worked in our family business.   My mother might have been a Tiger, but she wasn’t a tyrant.  She ruled with a stern prodding, but never a harsh tongue.  Expectations awere always high and friends (even other Chinese friends) said they noticed it.  People often say that some parents rule with an iron fist, well I think Asian parents amonst some other cultures are probably known for parenting via heavy guilt! 

When I first read the article I went digging for a note that my dad once showed to me.  It  was actually a series of letters. They were written by a wealthy multimillionaire businessman from Taiwan who was good friends with my grandfather on my mother’s side.  These two old Asian patriarchs would often go for walks on their large properties in Menlo Park, CA (a wealthy suburb of San Francisco) and discuss Asian philosophies and how they related to the Western business world and western parenting.  These two men were the first two minorities to move into what had been an all-white stuffed collar community.  When going to visit this my grandfather and his friend my parents told me to always listen to their stories before running off to play in the swimming pool.  It was boring for a 10 year old, but my dad must have kept the letters knowing that I’d find them again some day.  My grandfather’s friend gladly shared these letters with my dad and grandfather and must have been quite proud.  The letters were written to his eldest son who had just graduated from Harvard and was about to take a job with the McKinsey Consulting Group.  I have changed the names and not mentioned the business to protect the family which is a very high profile Asian family  (otherwise, all improper English is because I have kept all the imperfect grammar intact on purpose):

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LETTER #1

Dear XXXXX,

This is the first letter I write to you and I will give copies of it to your brothers.  It tells how your parents think about their children.

You and your  other brothers and sisters are always occupying the largest part of our heart.  This is the same as any other parents do.  First we worry about your health, your education, and then, your work, your marriage, and your family.  We do not know how our children think about their parents.  Sometimes, I heard complaints from your brothers.  They said, “Dad didn’t play with us.  Dad didn’t travel with us as other parents did.  They play with their children and travel together with their children.”  After I heard these complaints I used to wonder why they did not compare themselves with another group of children who work hard to earn more money to support their family.  I mean I don’t need more money from your working to support  the family, but I mean sometimes working is a kind of education and the experience from working can never be got in school.

Today I write this letter to you is for the purpose of answering your question whether you should work for the family business or in other company after you graduate from Harvard.

Before I answer your question, I want to tell you of my concept of managing a company.  If you become a member in the management of the company, you must understand the following concepts and principles.

  1. You should work much more and much harder than the ordinary employees,
  2. You should work for the much more difficult task than the ordinary employees, and
  3. You should work for the task with much more important responsibility than the ordinary employees.

If you want to work the family business, before you have made yor decision, you should convince yourself that you can surely comply with the above-mentioned principles.  It means you need to work more and harder and sometimes you may make some sacrifice in your private life.  But it will reward you in a later date.  Otherwise, you could work outside and you might enjoy an easy life for some short periods.

As regarding to the work experience from working in other companies, according to my past experience, it seems to not be very much useful.  Especially when working in a big company or institution, you re just like a a little piece of screw in a big machine.  Therefore the experience you acquired is very limited and sometimes useless.  Sometimes, you may even bring back some bad habits which will also influence you when you come back to work in my company.  Therefore, I do not one hundred percent agree that your experience from working outside will help your work with my company at a  later date.

With respect to the future business of our company, if our Chinese venture into apparel cannot succeed, there are lots of other business that you can start and/or develop.  The important thing is whether you can convince yourself if you can follow the above-mentioned Chinese principles when you come to work in my company.

This letter is an educational letter.  I hope you will keep it.Sometimes it will answer your problem, if you want to know how to manage it.

Love from

your father

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I read this many times over the years and couldn’t believe the audacity of a dad to move his children to the Western world and not support them in pursuit of their own  American or Western dream.  Was my grandfather’s friend right?  I’m not saying he was or wasn’t but his son has gone on to be quite successful owning some high profile businesses and having become a lead investor in many well-known technology companies.  Oh, and his father got his wish.  His son never went to McKinsey and I remember him being very frustrated at first.   

My dad was a kinder and gentler dad, but in passing this letter on to me, he didn’t have to tell me anything more.  Blood and my ancestry enough for going to be enough to help me by providing me with the right principles.  My grandfather on the other hand was no picnic.  He would insult his adult sons.  When one of his six sons got divorced, I remember my granfather shaking his head and telling me that my uncle (his son) was now only half a man (in reference that he had to give half of everything to his ex-wife).  My grandfather was perhaps the original Tiger Dad. 

So I guess in reading Amy Chua’s document I needed to self-reflect and ask if I am that kind of a dad.  This morning when my daughter said she was too sick to go to school, I told her to suck it up and go.  She’d already missed several days of school and misses school for the slightest  problems.  I  remember that missing school was only if you couldn’t get out of bed.  My wife said I was being tough, but I guess I’d rather be tough and involved rather than not involved.

My father always told me his father him he wanted a life better for his children  than he had.  He then told me he wanted the same for me and my siblings.  I think the current generation is different. We want a better way of life for our children.  My father gave me a lot, but he wasn’t able to share in it with me just like his father couldn’t with him.  I think it is any parent’s wish (Asian, black, white, Jewish, Latino, etc.) to see their kid succeed and to share that fulfillment with them, but hopefully it is not at the expense of too much angst.

If you’re curious, neither of my children is a concert violinist or pianist (in fact, far from it).  My children do have and go on sleepovers and playdates although I think too many. We do NOT have an xBox, Playstatio or Wii.  Both my children take piano (my son teaches himself guitar) and both play soccer and basketball.  My son also plays golf and baseball while my daughter takes gymnastics.   I do take pride as well in the academics of my children who I believe get above average grades.  My son (11)  has indicated that he feels the pressure to succeed and sometimes puts pressure on himself, but on several occasions when asked, he said he was alright. It is a tight balance we run with our children, but as I tell my son, I am happy that he understands that we want him to succeed as does every parent.